State of CO/ Botting:

[xpsite01]

*Note I will be posting this on 2 forums, so if you see it at another gaming forum don't worry*

State of CO:
Alot has changed in the past year in CO, because of some patches that have been introduced. Many servers have had their top players move onto other games or quit playing entirely and many servers economies were messed up when nobility was introduced (a few still haven't recovered), "potency-locked" items, merchant accounts are just a few more that had contributed to more than one player leaving or becoming frustrated with all the changes.

Drop rates are constantly being "adjusted", socketing items in TC is nearly impossible, and becoming +12 .. forget about that unless you plan on buying lots of DBs.

Yet, there are a few things that have been added that aren't all that bad, ie. 120 quest and city quests based on level, lowering the hp of Dis City mobs (1st stage), moving the 1st rb guy to market, and mentorship.

And let's be honest about one thing, we all understand TQ/Net Dragon is a business, looking to make profit , no one can fault them for that and some of the recent things to get implement like being able to socket items with start/tough drills, lotto, shopping mall only re-enforce that yes they are a business, trying to attract customers and stay profitable. But business seems to be doing fairly well "Chinese online game company NetDragon generates more than 10 million in monthly revenue from US operation of its 2D MMORPG Conquer Online, reports DoNews quoting NetDragon CFO Hu Zeming. (source: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]) ... 10 million per month / 120million per year selling DBs. There have been many "boycott Db sales" forum sigs and threads devoted to trying to force TQ/ Net Dragon to change gameplay, but none are ever succesful. I'm not going to try to change anyones opinion on playing CO but, 120 million profit for a company that provides very little customer support, can will/ ban your account without notice and who seemingly 4-5 times a year, will add features to the game that players don't ever seem to want, seems a little much and when we complain we get a free weekend of double xp, which is just another way for TQ/ Net Dragon to sell a few DBs in the end, because you lvled that much quicker, you'll need DBs sooner.

I'm personally frustrated with TQ/ Net Dragon, their lack of customer service, and being completely out-of-touch with the people who are playing their games. We all know that most suggestions we make at the CO forum will never be read by the developers, or implemented in game and while the moderators of CO's forum (who aren't paid or compensated by TQ) do their best to appease everyone with polls and suggestions that make it seem like we could actually change features on the game, how many times have you seen a suggestion make it into the game? Never or very, very few times I'm willing to bet.

I, myself, have asked to be a forum moderator on the CO forum, and also asked to be GM in game, of a server I do not play on free on charge with no special abilities (spawning DBs, teleport, etc) just to provide help to some players, being able to report bots/hacks and to show players that yes some people are willing to actually try to resolve in-game issues. I was told that "there is currently no position open for GM (wtf?!? because have so many GMs running around) and that the forum moderators positions were full.

Yet we all continue to stay, bitch about what we'd like to see in game, and grind our way to rb or 2nd rb and gladly spend $$ on our chars . I'm not trying to make anyone quit as that is not my intention, but rather just put some of this stuff in perspective , and for you to decide if TQ/ Net Dragon really deserves "your business", which brings me to my next section "State of Botting"

State of Botting:

Recent patches have crippled alot of the good bots/ poxies that had been available, ie V3nom, CID Proxy, "cracked" SV , and pretty much any "non-pixel" bot. While good for "legit" players, it has hit the botting/ macro users rather hard. While pixel bots can and will always work with any patch, they are not always easily configured, may or may not be prone to glitchs and sometimes have to be combined with other pixel bots to work accurately. (As some bots aren't configured for DC on low health, and some aren't configured to pick up items of quality)

And it seems that there are even less programmers/ macro makers playing CO right now, which I'm fairly sure that recent patches made a huge impact on, as well as the 100s of pages of "how do I use this", "it doesn't work" posts , when they put their programs up for download, many times they clearly put directions on how to use their programs on the first page as well as any updated info such as "works for patch XXXX" .

Yet they still recieve many complaints and very little thanks for their hard work and as soon as a new patch comes out, the spam threads start all over again.

In the past few weeks/ months some very good programs came out and some have disappeared :

KiXin Speedhack - allowing you to connect future proxies (currently working)

Co2Hook - BlueMouse/ Red/ Black name notification, showed items as giftboxes (not working)

"Cracked SV" - exactly what it sounds like (not working)

Cotobo - (not working, doesn't seem like it will return)

**M**s Loader - Sadly I think **M** has left CO for good.

So we left with, pixel bots, speedhacks, itemtypes and multi-clients, till the next big thing is released by it's programmer

[AcidAlchamy]

Good to know.

~Acid Alchamy~

[kacip]

w0w ~ i don't read any comment like this b4 ... u r the number 1 contender bro c0oL i 100% like ur comment ;)

[xpsite01]

thanks ..

I'm pretty much issuing a call to arms to any programmer/coder/ cracker out there.. Release your programs/ set up tutorials for noobs, anything that will help us get people interested in bot making again. I'm sure given some time that there will be a rival to SV, but until we get people interested again I just don't see it happening

[AcidAlchamy]

I know plenty of people who've made their own great bot, which work for every version. But you need to look at it from the Programmers point of view...what does he/she get out of it? All their hard work just to release it for free? Doesnt seem fair to them..

But Im sure some one will come along some time soon. Wouldnt be to surprised.

~Acid Alchamy~

[Mastin]

dude i totally agree with all the worthless new features that have come out i use to make an ok amout of money a a watertao lik1 mill every 1-2 weeks. iAnd i was actually able to buy gear now with the met prices are so low if i'm making 1 mil a mon and all those +1's, and super phenix gem i'm was hoping to buy are out of question. I'm like that the monster quest give you exp but i'm lvling faster than i'm getting mets. For the first time every i'm actually buying mets and spending 75% of my money on them

[xpsite01]

Originally Posted by AcidAlchamy

I know plenty of people who've made their own great bot, which work for every version. But you need to look at it from the Programmers point of view...what does he/she get out of it? All their hard work just to release it for free? Doesnt seem fair to them..

But Im sure some one will come along some time soon. Wouldnt be to surprised.

~Acid Alchamy~

I understand, that point.. Programmers work hard on their projects and for that they get a few a thanks , on a forum, doesn't seem like like that much of a reward, but if they could share some of the knowledge the have on programming maybe 1) we could stop so much "how do I fix this" 2) "doesn't work" posts that come about. Where as if people had some knowledge in the subject they may be able to fix it themselves or at least have a better idea as to the reason their bot doesn't work

[verfmannetje]

Ur totally right, it's like the most meaningful post i read on here ...
i rly hope programmers and hack makers will read this and get inspired again to help the non DB-buying ppl on CO.
I rly respect u for writing this cause ur absolutely right.
respect =P
grz
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[kacip]

hmmm i agree with u bro xpsite01 about many hacker don't play CO anymore that's y not much hack/macro program does'nt release hmmm i hope they can help/give a lesson about how to fix the problem just like now ;)

P/s : now i'm slowly leave CO maybe don't play anymore ... now i'm playing CO but not Conquer Online, it's Cabal Online lol

[AcidAlchamy]

Originally Posted by xpsite01

I understand, that point.. Programmers work hard on their projects and for that they get a few a thanks , on a forum, doesn't seem like like that much of a reward, but if they could share some of the knowledge the have on programming maybe 1) we could stop so much "how do I fix this" 2) "doesn't work" posts that come about. Where as if people had some knowledge in the subject they may be able to fix it themselves or at least have a better idea as to the reason their bot doesn't work

If I was to release a Guide on how to make MultiClients or Bots, I would get even more spam then before, not even the good kind of spam, just random people attempting to be programmers leading into huge failure then asking for more and more help, which in the long run doesnt pay off.

I understand what your saying so dont get me wrong, its just even if I or some one was to release Guides for such things...It would still only attarct more noobs and such along with annoying posts.

I think out of the whole ppl that use GzP just for CO I think maybe 7 of em are actually good at some thing, or atleast ask good questions.

Because people dont understand that most things can be answered by just scrolling up or using search function. Insted they decide to spam and just waste valuable space.

I'll see what I can do, and what I can come up with for as far as Guides for Bot Making.

~Acid Alchamy~