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tj330 · 08-25-2007, 06:57 AM

should faceless buy Refresher iN late game ? chrono 2 time

Telefonmann · 08-25-2007, 07:25 AM

No.

Butterfly
HoT
BoT
Mjollnir / Manta Style
MKB
Buriza

Other Items:
MoM
HoM
Radiance

My personal build:
2 Tangos
2 Wraith Bands
Boots
Hand of Midas (before 20 Minutes)
Butterfly
HoT
(gg)
BoT
Mjollnir / Manta
MKB
Buriza / Divine

5i0 · 08-25-2007, 10:05 AM

waste of item
buy that for treeman, not faceless

Sysfader · 08-25-2007, 02:29 PM

treads 2 brace mom butterfly buriza cuirass. nothing else needed

forallotheruses · 08-25-2007, 04:10 PM

treads.
basher.
basher.
assault.
satanic.
butterfly.

no need for refresher... well placed chrono = death of many.

Telefonmann · 08-26-2007, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by forallotheruses

treads.
basher.
basher.
assault.
satanic.
butterfly.

no need for refresher... well placed chrono = death of many.

26790 Gold, 2430 HP, 923 MP, 121-127 + 140 damage + Orb (25% Lifeleech) + Active (+30 damage, additional 15% Lifeleech), 13+12,1 Armor, attack cooldown --- 84+50 agi + 25% IAS from BF + 15% ias from AC + 30% IAS from Treads = 204% IAS, 360 MS, 47,5% eavasion.

Calculating your bash:
1-(1-A)*(1-B)*(1-C) .....
1-(1-0.25)*(1-0.15)*(1-0.15) = 0,458125 = ~46%
Spending 3220*2 = 6440 gold for a 21% increased bashchance?

1 Basher = 1-(1-0.25)*(1-0.15) = 0,3625 = 36%

2 Basher = Butterfly, or AC, or Buriza, or Mjollnir, or Satanic, see what I want to say? ^^

You will lose all clashes if you just stun one enemy instead of killing him.
Void is a lategamer, there is no sense in permabash since you don't deal any damage, don't have life and just own 1on1.

Butterfly + activated MoM is already permabash + Lifeleech = you don't need a Basher :)

My build:
Butterfly
HoT
BoT
Mjollnir / Manta Style
MKB
Buriza

All:
20% to deal 2.2x damage
47,5% Evasion

(Mjollnir)
25% bash
32910 Gold, 2806 HP, 923 MP, 121-127 + 300 damage + Orb (Chainlightening) + Active, 13+12,1 Armor, attack cooldown --- 84+85 agi + 25% IAS from BF + 30% IAS from MKB = 224% IAS, 390 MS + teleport.

(Manta)
25% bash
31650 Gold, 3056 HP, 1001 MP, 121-127 + 248 damage + Orb (Feedback [burns 36MP/Hit]) + 2 Illusions, 13+9,7 Armor, attack cooldown --- 84+68 agi + 25% IAS from BF + 30% IAS from MKB = 207% IAS, 390 MS + teleport.

Illusions:
No bash, Feedback, 48,4 - 50,8 damage, not affected by Chronossphere, only +IAS from stats, take more damage.
= 471,2 damage with yourself (+ 3*Feedback = 108 MP/Hit)

(MoM)
25% bash
28100 Gold, 2806 HP, 923 MP, 121-127 + 230 damage + Orb (Lifeleech [17%]) + Active, 13+12,1 Armor, attack cooldown --- 84+85 agi + 25% IAS from BF + 30% IAS from MKB = 224% IAS --- +75% from MoM = 299% IAS, 390 MS --- +15% from MoM = 448,5 + teleport.

Phew, headache xD

forallotheruses · 08-26-2007, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telefonmann

26790 Gold, 2430 HP, 923 MP, 121-127 + 140 damage + Orb (25% Lifeleech) + Active (+30 damage, additional 15% Lifeleech), 13+12,1 Armor, attack cooldown --- 84+50 agi + 25% IAS from BF + 15% ias from AC + 30% IAS from Treads = 204% IAS, 360 MS, 47,5% eavasion.

Calculating your bash:
1-(1-A)*(1-B)*(1-C) .....
1-(1-0.25)*(1-0.15)*(1-0.15) = 0,458125 = ~46%
Spending 3220*2 = 6440 gold for a 21% increased bashchance?

1 Basher = 1-(1-0.25)*(1-0.15) = 0,3625 = 36%

2 Basher = Butterfly, or AC, or Buriza, or Mjollnir, or Satanic, see what I want to say? ^^

You will lose all clashes if you just stun one enemy instead of killing him.
Void is a lategamer, there is no sense in permabash since you don't deal any damage, don't have life and just own 1on1.

Butterfly + activated MoM is already permabash + Lifeleech = you don't need a Basher :)

My build:
Butterfly
HoT
BoT
Mjollnir / Manta Style
MKB
Buriza

All:
20% to deal 2.2x damage
47,5% Evasion

(Mjollnir)
25% bash
32910 Gold, 2806 HP, 923 MP, 121-127 + 300 damage + Orb (Chainlightening) + Active, 13+12,1 Armor, attack cooldown --- 84+85 agi + 25% IAS from BF + 30% IAS from MKB = 224% IAS, 390 MS + teleport.

(Manta)
25% bash
31650 Gold, 3056 HP, 1001 MP, 121-127 + 248 damage + Orb (Feedback [burns 36MP/Hit]) + 2 Illusions, 13+9,7 Armor, attack cooldown --- 84+68 agi + 25% IAS from BF + 30% IAS from MKB = 207% IAS, 390 MS + teleport.

Illusions:
No bash, Feedback, 48,4 - 50,8 damage, not affected by Chronossphere, only +IAS from stats, take more damage.
= 471,2 damage with yourself (+ 3*Feedback = 108 MP/Hit)

(MoM)
25% bash
28100 Gold, 2806 HP, 923 MP, 121-127 + 230 damage + Orb (Lifeleech [17%]) + Active, 13+12,1 Armor, attack cooldown --- 84+85 agi + 25% IAS from BF + 30% IAS from MKB = 224% IAS --- +75% from MoM = 299% IAS, 390 MS --- +15% from MoM = 448,5 + teleport.

Phew, headache xD

and strangely enough, I've never lost a game when I'm void.

Tinman26 · 08-27-2007, 05:10 AM

if true then...that would not just depend on the item but also with who is the player himself...excellent playstyle + multipurpose unconventional items = godlike...it's not always the items that makes a hero good...remember the one holding the mouse :P

drogba · 09-03-2007, 03:45 AM

No, chronosphere once = 200 mana

refresh = 375 mana

Total = 775 mana

a better build is Treads, satanic, butterfly, mkb, buriza and assault

frezasaga · 09-03-2007, 04:57 AM

best for faceless is this

MOM
Buriza
ButterrFy

thats all you see when farming faceless is the best one........so you can earn the gold you want to be.........

08-25-2007, 06:57 AM	#1
tj330 Lurker Last Online: 01-08-2008 12:09 AM Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3 Thanks: 6 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 519.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 519.00 Donate	faceless should faceless buy Refresher iN late game ? chrono 2 time

08-25-2007, 07:25 AM	#2
Telefonmann Registered User Last Online: 07-16-2008 08:57 AM Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 166 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7 Times in 4 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 3,329.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 3,329.00 Donate	Re: faceless No. Butterfly HoT BoT Mjollnir / Manta Style MKB Buriza Other Items: MoM HoM Radiance My personal build: 2 Tangos 2 Wraith Bands Boots Hand of Midas (before 20 Minutes) Butterfly HoT (gg) BoT Mjollnir / Manta MKB Buriza / Divine

08-25-2007, 10:05 AM	#3
5i0 Registered User Last Online: 09-02-2008 10:02 AM Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 20 Posts: 224 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 2,316.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 2,316.00 Donate	Re: faceless waste of item buy that for treeman, not faceless

08-25-2007, 02:29 PM	#4
Sysfader Registered User Last Online: 02-02-2008 08:36 AM Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 13 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 100.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 100.00 Donate	Re: faceless treads 2 brace mom butterfly buriza cuirass. nothing else needed

08-25-2007, 04:10 PM	#5
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08-27-2007, 05:10 AM	#8
Tinman26 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Age: 20 Posts: 120 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 1,537.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 1,537.00 Donate	Re: faceless if true then...that would not just depend on the item but also with who is the player himself...excellent playstyle + multipurpose unconventional items = godlike...it's not always the items that makes a hero good...remember the one holding the mouse :P

09-03-2007, 03:45 AM	#9
drogba Registered User Last Online: 06-25-2008 10:55 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 129 Thanks: 1 Thanked 98 Times in 39 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 4,335.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,335.00 Donate	Re: faceless No, chronosphere once = 200 mana refresh = 375 mana Total = 775 mana a better build is Treads, satanic, butterfly, mkb, buriza and assault

09-03-2007, 04:57 AM	#10
frezasaga Registered User Last Online: Yesterday 05:08 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 610 Thanks: 0 Thanked 31 Times in 24 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 5,888.73 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,888.73 Donate	Re: faceless best for faceless is this MOM Buriza ButterrFy thats all you see when farming faceless is the best one........so you can earn the gold you want to be.........

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