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Old 05-14-2006, 11:18 AM   #1
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Jah'rakal - Troll Warlord

I just got him in an ar game and I guess he will become my favourite agi hero.
I attach a replay which is quite good in the late game (*they let you farm / only noobs / blablabla*).

Maybe you can give me some tips how I could improve my play with him and farm faster.
In a game without Zeus(etc.) I would get a Satanic instead of Linkens.

My first Itembuild would be:

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Maelstrom (selled in the lategame)
Buriza
Satanic
Butterfly
Scadi
Radiance / MKB


the second:

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Buriza
Basher
Basher
Satanic
Butterfly


Suggestions:
Hyperstone
Lothars

Strategy:
(Well, its not a real strategy...)
Thorwing axes until I get Buriza then use Berserk to get stun and just slay enemies in 1 on 1 combats until... until you do the same as I do in the replay.
My build sucks in the early and sometimes in the mid game. If my team can't handle a few early pushs the game is over :\
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Old 05-14-2006, 01:18 PM   #2
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Re: Jah'rakal - Troll Warlord

1st of all,jarakal without black king bar is very vulnerable especially due to his low health..int and str heroes can pawn him easily..Even with such an attack speed,going through games without black king bar is risky.Linken Sphere or Mael Storm can be a good item for him.Due to his attack speed,triggering the lighting would be much easy and more often.Well,I dont need to explain the needs of Linken Sphere do I?Getting deso or burize is also good.Better critical or armor lowering,it pwns.Butterfly would be necessarily too.If you cast blind on your enemy,and you have evasion from butterfly,lol.Even Razor or Bone cant do much damage to you even though they can attack fast.Sange & Yasha might also be an option.But I dont go that way.

With blind early game,the enemy cannot farm,and they will instead be harass by you.Blind cast very little mana,so it wouldnt be a problem for you if you spam it.I'll see your replay later and I'll give you further feedback.
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Re: Jah'rakal - Troll Warlord

Uhh, saint? Troll has one of the highest strength builds for an Agility hero -.-
Black King Bar is not necessary if you go the cheap permabasher way in a fight with you versus some unlucky bum.
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Re: Jah'rakal - Troll Warlord

I'd go with permabash too. His whatchamacallit aura gives a great advantage of attack speed from early to midgame and if you can capitalize on that, it's pretty easy pawned mid to late game agi and int heroes since you'd have the advantage of lvl + items over them.
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Re: Jah'rakal - Troll Warlord

well, permabash is good.

but still, i hate jarakal since the dawn of combo int heroes.

bkb might be useful. afterall, jarakal cant go away with lina or lion.

think of jarakal the same way as naix (the lifestealer). the reason why naix has his rage because he has a lot of trouble with spell casters. jarakal might need the same thing too. but if you can get away with attack speed then good for you.
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Re: Jah'rakal - Troll Warlord

I'ld go treads, 2x bashers, S&Y or Skadi, Butterfly, BKB.

Why do u have 2 orb effects in your first build?
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Re: Jah'rakal - Troll Warlord

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Why do u have 2 orb effects in your first build?
that wasnt my build..I was just telling him what items might work well with him..

hhmm,I understand the concept of the permanent bash you're talking about,but however,with only 1 basher,doesnt bash that much..Besides,you can only aim one person at a time.One stun on you,and you'll be vulnerable.On most int and stun heroes which has disables or guinsoos,they might just disable or stun you and run away.This happens alot.Free kill getting away..

however,no matter what,you'll need 2 bashers for permanent bash..Black King Bar costs around the same gold as 1 basher and is definitely cheaper than 2x bashers..

With black king bar,the chances of getting double kill or tripple kill are higher.Permanent bashes work like a charm on one on one.But if more than that takes place,it'll be a problem.You might die or they might get away easily.Just one stun or disable is what it only takes either from the person itself or the teammates.
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Re: Jah'rakal - Troll Warlord

mmm... the most terrifying encounter I had with The troll was the other day (seem to slipped off my mind) 3 on 2, I'm with 2 playing PUDGE and the 3 peeps dressed him pretty quick.

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Crystalis x2
meh, didn't survive. dun permastun. The builds not meant to last into late game but man it was painful!
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Re: Jah'rakal - Troll Warlord

permanent stun is basically a build where the enemy relies on one hero.And since that hero is that good,they would be paralysed without him.Since he would be having great items,the only way to stop him would be permanent bashing..thats when you go the permanent basher.Its fully based on 1 on 1 hero killing..
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Re: Jah'rakal - Troll Warlord

id go with perma stun to i saw a reply, troll vs anti-mage, mage with divine n rapier 1 basher ... troll has 1 basher and i forgot the other items (this was late game), anywayz... troll got him 1on1 and with anti-mage thinking he has the upperhand got in the fight, troll used his first skill (forgot the name) and whapaak!!! anti-mage was seeing stars for about 10 seconds until lights out -1 on aegis..
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