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Old 12-21-2005, 11:45 AM   #1
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Anti-Mage [Magina]

Anti-Mage is an Agility Hero. Meelee Range

My recommended build for Anti-Mage (v.s Nuking Heroes)
1) Mana Break
2) Blink
3) Mana Break
4) Spell Shield
5) Mana Break
6) Spell Shield
7) Mana Break
8) Void
9) Blink
10) Spell Shield
11) Void
12) Spell Shield
13) Blink
14) Blink
15) Stats
16) Spell Shield
17 - 25) Stats

An obvious thing you all might notice is why no ulti at level 6? The reason being is that your mana break is not high enough and that anti-mage damage is pretty lousy. So you probably are still not up to killing heroes yet. So perhaps spell shield would be more effective against nukers.

Most intel heroes run pretty slow, so its not much need to get blink so often.

Items [Against Nuking Heroes]
1) Ring of Regen
2) Gauntlets of Ogre Strength
3) Gauntlets of Ogre Strength
4) Boots of Speed
5) Gloves of Haste
6) Power Treads Recipie
7) Mithril Hammer
8) Cramium Basher
9) Mithril Hammer
10) Cramium Basher
11) Hyperstone
12) Ogre Axe + Broadsword + BKB Recipie
13) Quarterstaff + Eaglehorn + Butterfly Recipie

In the end you should have - Power Treads, Cramium Basher, Cramium Basher, Hyperstone, Black King Bar, Butterfly.

Ring of Regen is one of the most important items in the start of the game. This is because with that, you can just camp behind all your creeps and hold while u regenerate rather than running back to base.

Why so many gauntlets? Simple, Anti-Mage life is bad, so adding gauntlets helps you out for hp and regeneration, its cheap too. It is also a requirement for cramium basher so it flows.


Build for Anti-Mage [Strength + Agility Heroes (non-nuking)]
1) Mana Break
2) Blink
3) Stats
4) Blink
5) Stats
6) Blink
7) Stats
8) Blink
9) Stats
10) Stats
11) Stats
12) Mana Break
13) Stats
14) Mana Break
15) Stats
16) Mana Break
17) Stats
18) Void
19) Stats
20) Void
21) Void
22) Spell Shield
23) Spell Shield
24) Spell Shield
25) Spell Shield

First thing is, WHY THE HECK NO MANA BREAK & SO MANY STATS!!! The reason isn't very simple. With higher stats, it allows anti mage to have a very fast attack speed, higher HP and so on. If you get a high mana break, it may be useless as they may run out of mana before you even burn much away!

Item build i guess is roughly the same as what you would want to achieve is perma-bash. It should be easier to get the items with it harder for those heroes to disturb your farming.

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Old 12-21-2005, 04:49 PM   #2
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Re: Anti-Mage [Magina]

stats wad items ya get too :p
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Re: Anti-Mage [Magina]

magina is one of the most powerfull hero's in the game if you know how to use him. He is the fastest hero in the game too... i think he might even be the fastest ... you cant turn magina into an anti-everything with the right combo of items. Just stay away from pudge.
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Re: Anti-Mage [Magina]

Nope, Night Stalker [Balanar] is the fastest in the night that is. In the day, i recken it is chaos knight. Another fast one is the guy that can shape shift into a wolf
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Re: Anti-Mage [Magina]

scorpion is right... antimage is really antieverything in the right hands... i have 2 very strong item builds:
treads >basher >RoH >butterfly > basher >hyperstone
treads > RoH > sacred relic >demon edge > platemail > aegis + divine

only do the second build if your pro at playing antimage.

As for skill biulds:
no matter your enemy ALWAYS max mana break.. its great for damage!! then max blink... then depending on your enemys go for either stats or mana sheild.... always get mana void when possible.
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Re: Anti-Mage [Magina]

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Nope, Night Stalker [Balanar] is the fastest in the night that is. In the day, i recken it is chaos knight. Another fast one is the guy that can shape shift into a wolf
errm,Banehallow's speed is faster than Balanar.100% sure.Chaos Knight isnt fast,its just that he can blink strike.He's almost as fast as other str heroes.

And this guide is good.A very detailed one.I like it.Provided good common sense on why the tactic is used.Good job..But if I were you,I would get butterfly first,not basher.

Basher = fully offensive,stuns in a while,not always.
butterfly = offensive and defensive,hits faster permanently.

You should be getting basher later.With buttferfly,evasion is there to help yo u defend and it helps you hit faster,causing faster mana burn.Then basher,then Black King Bar if needed.
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Re: Anti-Mage [Magina]

Actually, reason why i chose basher over butterfly first is because of cost.

You notice that people would usually go for burrize rather than butterfly first? Its because burrize is easier to get, more items but they are cheaper

Burrize - Blades of Attack 650
Broadsword 1200
Crystalis 1000

Demon Edge 2600
Burrize 750

Butterfly - Quarterstaff 1150
Eaglehorn 3450!!!!!
Butterfly 1400

Notice how freakin difficult it is to save up for that eagle horn! thats the reason. you can buy a basher for that price.
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Re: Anti-Mage [Magina]

Magina =
Max Spell Shield, then Manabreak, then Blink. Of course, learn your ultimate as fast as you can. His items:
1. Power Treads
2. Sange & Yasha
3. The Butterfly
4. Buriza do-Kyanon
5. Monkey King Bar
6. Aegis of the Immortal
Why? First, many idiots would say "well, if u get sange yasha u cant feedback no more". The ignorance of that statement is astounding. With Sange & Yasha with Manabreak, you will keep destroying mana, UNTIL YOU MAIM. When you maim, you will not destroy mana, but maim instead. Aegis? You become basically a tank with approx. 65% spell reduction. Buriza and King Bar just lets you kill heroes faster. Butterfly makes you invincible with 25% Evasion.
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Re: Anti-Mage [Magina]

What does Mana Break,Spell Shield and Void do? Is Mana Break the same as Mana burn. I could pretty much guess what Spell Shield does, but what does void do?
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Re: Anti-Mage [Magina]

Blink, cool move
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