This friend'o'mine is telling me to shut down the Instant 70 and open a Pre TBC instead.
I'm wondering what you people think about it.. Should we do that and open a new server? I'm sure it could bring some popularity along.
*Opens poll*
If this is approved, we will discuss a possible character migration by then.
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Well, i have seen lately on the wow-europe forums that there is a heavily increase of threads discussing pre-tbc servers, and among 90% of those threads, there are people saying they will move to private servers if not blizzard will make a pre-tbc server.
Blizzard has no plans of making a server like this, because they say there is no content behind naxxramas, which they probably are right at, but that dosent mean its not worth making one, it will take probably a year and a half before people even can do naxxramas.
In my opinion, i like pre-tbc servers, looking at what burning crusade has done, it's like living a dream if this goes through.
Burning crusade destroyed PvP with resilence and shit, also welfare epics, rogues are heavily overpowered and hunters do insane dps, it's mainly because of their gear giving more bonuses than the other sets gives.
in my opinion, a pre-tbc server WOULD be worth it if you think longer than to the nosetip, think back at the good ol' times when people actually raided orgrimmar and ironforge for the honor.
I would love to hear other players feedback too, i sure do agree in shutting down the instant 70 would also cause trouble, but i've seen lack of popularity in both servers in the past weeks, i think they are about to die.
I personally think that an instant 70 server is absolutely useless simply because everyone will find it hard starting of from 70 straight away. Think about it, all your skills are still 0, you have no armour to fight higher level mobs and ontop of that you have no money to buy anything. Even when you are 70 you will still have to start off killing low level mobs to build up your money and skills. Yes it does save some time, but its just a pain when all you are doing is fighting all these mobs to get gold and increase your skill. What makes it fun while killing mobs is when you actually gain XP and get that urge to kill one more to get to the next level :P.
Personally, a good instant 70 server would require a bit more work on it to make it "playable", meaning you will have to start them off with some kind of small advantage to get the going.
For example, some things you may add to an instant 70 server:
1) each players starts off with 100 gold (for skills and professions and maybe some noob armour).
2) Unique merchants that sell general lvl 70 armour at a very low price, (think of it as noob armour that will help you fight a lvl 60 equally so that you may then gain more gold and replace that noob armour with armour dropped from lvl 60's, and so on till your armour is strong enough to fight lvl 70's equally).
3) Could possibly add a new area for instant lvl 70's to farm at, just to make it easier. Since the aim of this instant lvl 70 server is to PvP anyway, might as well change the game style to farm farm farm, get more gold, better armour and attack the opposition. Rather than .... travel waste time, kill a certain mob get their drop, then move on to the next mob). This should speed up the game and allow everyone to participate in PvP'ing including noobs that don't know where to go. (more fun for everyone).
Please feel free to comment on my opinion or add to it with your own pimp suggestions.
We're implenting quests and stuff into the pre-tbc server that gives you gold and items (you will start off with tier 1 and some "bad" epic weapons) so you can work your way up to higher sets!
I will try and take a look on what we can do with the honor system, i may be lucky enought to find a 1.12 < client so i can inplent some things that were before TBC (old honor system, old areas etc etc).
I can't make a promise yet, it will be a hard edit, but i will do my best.
I think making a newer server to replace the old isn't a good idea atm as the number of people playing is not high enough. We do not have enough developed economy or pvp due to the lack of players and honor point/arena system are bugged. Dragging people away from high rate server to another pre-tbc one doesn't really improve gameplay or make it more interesting. Why? same issue with bug in skill, quest, mobs etc... But it's your call.
I think making a newer server to replace the old isn't a good idea atm as the number of people playing is not high enough. We do not have enough developed economy or pvp due to the lack of players and honor point/arena system are bugged. Dragging people away from high rate server to another pre-tbc one doesn't really improve gameplay or make it more interesting. Why? same issue with bug in skill, quest, mobs etc... But it's your call.
Thats why we are changing, pre-tbc servers are becoming much more pupular than before.
Spzatt, I don't know why you'd want to edit the client. When we set Expansion=0, all DB stuffs that are TBC-related in any way, should automatically be excluded.
So basically, no client editing is required, AFAIK.
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Had I the heavens’ embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
Don't add me on instant messengers for no reason. Also, I do not trade/MM.
Thats why we are changing, pre-tbc servers are becoming much more pupular than before.
you are saying that pre-tbc server with the same bugs and issue as the high rate is better and more popular? That it excites you to do the same thing over on another server that has less skill/mobs/lvl/places to go?
That doesn't make any sense at all. And you are implying that we are changing to pre-tbc to draw away members from the high rate? Then even more reason to say no because the original instant 70 server was designed for fun, not serious gaming. Replacing it with another serious pre-tbc gaming server is going to have a conflict on such a small community we have on the high rate server. This is true unless the pre-tbc is also instant 70?
if u ask me, the best way to attract more users is by making a new realm that no one else has before, and a realm where users actually feel like they are playing with others rather than just by themselves doing quests. One idea that will be satisfy both ideas is to create a PvP Only server.
Here are the guidlines and ideas needed to make one:
1) A small zone where you will find all lvl monsters for easy leveling and farming. Set it up so that as you go deeper in the area the lvl of the monster increases.
2) This area should be located in a PvP zone designated so that once you farm you go out and PvP. This area has to have the tower feature where both sides have to take over each tower.. ofcourse duh !... To make things more interesting.... you can have different zones with different modes of play... like capture the flag etc...
3) Using the idea of Alterc valley where you have to kill the boss.... you can make it so that each side has their own boss. Once the boss is killed, it will drop say for example a medal... that medal can be looted by everyone so that everyone can get one medal. Create a custom merchant where you can exchange a certain amount of medals for PvP geared armours and custom PvP armours.
The idea behind all of this is to concentrate everyone in one area instead of seperating them around the whole world... to make it more lively and player friendly. Later on when the server grows you may add other PvP areas around the world and maybe even edit instances to drop certain items that are needed to by custom PvE armours.... so that users will actually be motivated to create raids and raid an instance.
There are A LOT of details that I have not covered... but this is the basic outline. This will require some database editing, world editing blah blah blah but it can be done if you are good enough and if you really want your serer to sky rocket.
What do you guys think ? because if you just create another server that every other popular site already has... then there really is no point because everyone will go towards the site that has more ppl playing on it.. But by creating something new, everyone will go to your server because no other site has it...
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