For the GW Haters

Aydrian · 01-16-2006, 05:41 PM

I wrote this on MMORPG.com, decided to put it on here. I like this game, and a lot of the time I feel the need to defend it against the GW haters, so check this out.

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And yes, player skill matters a lot more than hours played in this game. In WoW, if you're even two levels above your opponent you can usually own them without a problem. But in this game, stategy and real skills matter the most.
Reasons I Liked This Game
-No Ksing
-I haven't met many immature people. So I don't know what they're crying about.
-It's something new. MMOG's like WoW are the same candy in a different wrapper.
-The founders are employees who have done great things for gaming in their lives. They're not idiots.
-I can walk outside and not see a dozen different people killing the exact same monster I am. People fail to remember that can bring more boredom than immersion. Because I fail to see the fun at watching someone with the same weapon kill the same monster at the same speed I am. So I don't see why so many people whine and cry about instancing.
-I have played a lot of PvP, and have rarely been called a n00b, or a ******, or anything like that. I won't get ganked by some 1337 speaking 12 year old who thinks he's the hottest thing to come along since the invention of videogames. Want to see the pinnacle of human stupidity, go to a WoW forum. Trust me, if someone put 90% of WoW's fanbase into a room then nuked it, the world would probably be better for it.
-I have met a lot of cool people in this game. Almost everyone I've partied with is on my friends list.
-Streaming updates! Dear God the streaming updates are so fast and simple.
-VERY quick install speed. I got it installed in less then a minute and updated completely in less than two. WoW takes me a good 10-15 minutes to completely install. Kinda sad.
-No monthly fee! A game that looks and plays this good without robbing me of my hard earned money! They even gave the players an expansion size update for free and gave the players the music for that update for free! What are you paying for in WoW? To be called a "gay fag" and for Paladins to get destroyed while they make Shamans more and more powerful?
-Best PvP ever. Period. 'nuff said.

Now let me explain a few things that bug me. People say that a lot of kids that can't afford MMOG's moved into this game because there is no fee. Well, I don't know what fantasy word they're living in but they're mostly full of crap. That's an excuse. I know very damn well that most parents are willing to cough up a measly $15 a month for their kids. Now, I know not all families have money, but look at how many people are members of WoW. And 90% of them are definitely 16 and younger. Does that LOOK like a small percentage to you?
I'm 20 years old and can afford monthly fees, so can others younger and older than me. Most of the time anyway. Nonetheless, I'm one of the people who believe monthly fees are bs. A lot of people think that too. So before the crybabies say "Only kids play GW because they don't have to pay a fee" they really need to stare down the business end of a shotgun and pull the trigger because that excuse is getting a bit old.
And I'm not going to list the bad traits. I'll tell you why. All of the GW haters take some of the smallest things and blow them out of proportion.
You can't jump!
You can't jump in 99% of the MMOG's today. What's your damn point you pathetic WoW fanboy?
The areas are instanced!
Yeah, it's called change. Get used to it, because many newer MMOG's will be taking stuff from this game.
Characters don't move right!
Yeah, the same thing can be said about WoW, Final Fantasy 11, SilkRoad, Star Wars Galaxies etc. Even in the new Dungeons and Dragons Online. So what exactly are you expecting to see here? Come back to me when you have an intelligent response.
There isn't any mounts!
Wow, that's a great loss isn't it? If you find some amusement sitting on a horses back that can't do anything more then get you from point "a to b" then go play WoW. Most of the mounts in that game are utterly useless. And in an instanced game like this, mounts would be meaningless. Think, will you?
You can't swim!
Why would I want to? Oh goody, there's a pretty little pond over there, I'm going to go waste my time by swimming in it, thus providing a distraction that makes the game longer and more boring, and if the game has a fee, then it's just a way to make you waste time to pay more money. This might come as a shock to some of you naive children, but those little distractions ADD UP, that's why they were put there. They aren't there for your amusement, they're there to distract you.
You can't get the mega 1337 sword of ultimate ungodly doom and own all with it!
Yeah, that means the players themselves have to have the gaming aptitude of a monkey. What a shame. It must be so hard to actually have to strategize. If you don't know what strategize means, look it up. Because I doubt most GW haters know what that is.
I think that's it. I wrote this up on the fly and while being tired as hell. The point of this all is that very tiny problems are overblown and stacked upon each other by the GW haters. I've never seen so many crybabies in my entire life whine about the smallest things like the GW haters have for this game. It's saddening to see what these so called "gamers" are reducing themselves to. Oh well, to each his/her own.

monkeyninja · 01-17-2006, 01:04 AM

****n well said. Stickied so any more WoW/EQ2 wankers come in might be able to see this

Ender · 01-17-2006, 09:38 AM

I agree with everything you have said except for 2 points that you have made.

I have been playing this game from the start, I dont know how often or how long you have played, but you must be blind to the immaturity and stupidity that plagues this wonderfull game. Every corner i turn, every group i find there is a 12 year old with something to prove welcoming me. As for pvp... Have you not seen how people demand r3++ and if you arnt, your a "nub". Anyways, other than that, Good job ;)

Kerrebrys · 01-17-2006, 10:04 AM

I recently started playing GW, and it's a wonderful game. Solo-combat-areas was a fantastic idea - it's removed the whole aspect of PKers from what could have been a very easily exploited MMORPG. The fact that you can only play with people you want to is brilliant.

I say that pretty much everything you say is right, except for the immaturity thing - certainly in pre-searing Ascalon, there are quite a few female players dancing, er, ahem... "Sine clothing"...

Exploit · 01-20-2006, 05:12 PM

I disagree with most of what you said. I agree GW is a good game, but the not being able to jump off small cliffs and having to go around it is pretty lame. Swimming takes away from 30% of the monsters they could have added in the game to make it more enjoyable.

Mounts...not really needed, yet GW has taken so much from WoW it was smart they didnt make these or it'd be judged as a complete remake.

The camera doesnt even follow you when you turn...thats lame.

GW does take alot more "skill" to win, its not all about armor...however, that is a big help...and with better armor you'll most likely when unless you completely suck.

The immature part is in every game, you cant get away with it. There is immature people on the net, which means they will be in all the games too. Just because you havent seen them (which I doubt you havent) doesnt mean they arent there.

First you complain about people complaining about not being able to afford WoW, then you yourself talk about how GW is free, and isnt "robbing" you.

The reason GW takes such a short time is because it doesnt have swimming/jumping and all that other good stuff. WoW does. WoW is also ALOT. bigger.

Just because you suck at WoW PVP doesnt mean you get to call anyone 12 year olds. That's what happens when you join a PVP server. You get ganked.

WoW has way better graphics then GW, and GW is just like every other "candy". It has classes, no races (wtf is with that?) and you basically pick 1-2 things and you stick with it till end game. You have to unlock stuff to play, which means no PVP till you have beaten the game at least once.

WoW employees aren't idiots...of course everyone has their downside but I've never even spoken with a GM in GW before.

In GW NO ONE talks to anyone they dont know unless they want something. In WoW people actually talk.

Lets see...what else?

If you get mocked/insulted you usually did something to deserve it. No one comes up to you and randomly says "hey **** u suck my cock u pansy whore".

In GW the instances are kinda bad, leveling by myself is amazingly boring. No one likes partying for anything but PVP and raiding.

I'll update this later, but just so you know...

A WoW hater is just as bad as a GW hater. You aren't special.

tabriz · 01-20-2006, 07:23 PM

well written Exploit.

WoW pvp > gw pvp. no question about it. just because you suck doesnt mean IT sucks.

no jumping/swimming is retarded.

have you ever walked from darnassus to ironforge maybe in WoW? could take around 30 minutes (without using the hypogryphs) but with a mount not nearly that long.

immature in WoW but not in gw? *laughing* 90% are definetely under 16? *laughing* are you sure you have ever played an online game cause with those idiotic statements its resonable to assume you havent. i met more 10 year old kiddies in gw in 4 hours than i think i have ever in hundreds of hours of WoW.

lets put it this way...if you want a game that can be beaten in 5 days with a bunch of 10 year old kiddies that only talk when they/you need something, takes the brain power of a rock and has no depth to the game...well then sure gw is for you.

on the other hand...if you dont mind the measily 12 bucks a month for WoW and like a game with tons of depth, not a measily 20 lvl cap, (in WoW you can lvl skills to 300 and yourself to 60) choosing horde/alliance which is absolutely brilliant, pvp that is far superior...then maybe WoW is for you. :)

yea yea...bring on the haters.

as Exploit said "
A WoW hater is just as bad as a GW hater. You aren't special."

agreed 110%

i remember this aydrian kid from back before gzp got pwned. i almost feel bad for him.

Aydrian · 01-20-2006, 11:37 PM

Great, two children, I've been waiting for a challenge although this can hardly be considered one. I'm bored and feel like doing something in depth. Ok, starting with Exploit.

I agree GW is a good game, but the not being able to jump off small cliffs and having to go around it is pretty lame.

I'm not too fascinated with jumping. Here's a little fact you might like. The three founders of Anet worked for Blizzard, one was the architected of Battle.net. And one of the other two was a WoW TEAM LEAD. If they thought jumping would benefit you at all in this game then they could have easily added it, seeing as they did it once before.

Jumping to lower spots in WoW is pointless. Why, you might ask? Because of how the enemies are positioned. Let me go into some strategy with you. I've been all the way through this game several times. Monsters patrol and are usually on certain paths where you always have to fight at least half of the patrols on the map or run through them at least.

Jumping down to lower ledges can easily make you avoid most of the enemies in the game, causing it to become a lot more easier then it already is. If they had implemented jumping, they would have had to completely reposition all the enemies, probably change their stats, and whatever spells they can cast. Change all of that, because someone loves to jump up and down like a child. I'm glad they left jumping out. It gave me more of a challenge.

Mounts...not really needed, yet GW has taken so much from WoW it was smart they didnt make these or it'd be judged as a complete remake.

The funny thing about that comment is that if it had taken so much from WoW as you had claimed, then it'd be much more widely popular. Also, mounts in instanced areas would have completely destroyed any challenge in the game whatsoever. This might come as a surprise to you, but there were actually MMOG's BEFORE WoW. WoW took upon heavily from other MMOG's, so don't get too proud by your comment. It doesn't quite hold up.

Also, if GW was anywhere near the perfect remake then I wouldn't have played it at all. I played both WoW and GW extensively, and the games are very much different. Comparing them is like comparing ice to fire.

immature in WoW but not in gw? *laughing* 90% are definetely under 16? *laughing* are you sure you have ever played an online game cause with those idiotic statements its resonable to assume you havent. i met more 10 year old kiddies in gw in 4 hours than i think i have ever in hundreds of hours of WoW.

In my 400+ hours of game time in GW I have never encountered anyone rude. I've 90+ hours of that is PvP, the rest PvE. I have heard of others complaining about immaturity in GW, and honestly I believe them. But I have yet to encounter it.

Also, my statements are not idiotic. It's comments like that that make me despise WoW fanboys, you think anyone who hates WoW are idiots. And I know you're lying about a few things. Namely the meeting more 10 year old kiddies in GW than you did WoW.

It's rather obvious that you're siding with WoW and letting your opinions be so influenced by your fanboyish pride that any other games that challenge WoW's lofty throne are horrible games. I was ganked more times in WoW by 1337 speaking children than any other game I've ever played. If you walk into a city ANYONE can see the stupid convos that go on there.

Want help on a quest in WoW? Do NOT ask for it unless you ask a Guildmate. Because if you ask for some help in a city half of them will call you "G4y" or a "F4g", and prepare to hear the word "n00b" every few seconds.

I am still yet to be called any of that in GW. Sure, sometimes people smacktalk, but if they didn't then it wouldn't be competitive. But the people in WoW go too far. They insult to a point where many people just quit the game because they cannot get along with the community. So I have no idea what you seem to think you know about, but if anyone here is being an idiot, it's the person with his head shoved firmly up Blizzards ass.

lets put it this way...if you want a game that can be beaten in 5 days with a bunch of 10 year old kiddies that only talk when they/you need something, takes the brain power of a rock and has no depth to the game...well then sure gw is for you.

It can be beaten in 5 days yes. But only if you play it obsessively. And this game was not EVER meant to be played as obsessively as WoW. And (shock) right on the box it says CORPG. I wonder why it's called that. Hmm, could it possibly, JUST MAYBE, be called that because it's for people who love PvP?

Well, damn, I think I'm right there. Whoah, an epiphany! This game might actually be a Competitive Online RPG, or maybe a Cooperative Online RPG. Hmm, I've always considered it both. And "takes the brain power of a rock" you say? Yeah, and pressing your mouse once and allowing your person to attack, everyonce in awhile using some stupid skill to make the thing dead a tad faster, requires much more intellignce?

Forgive me, I guess you must be right.

Did you even try the PvP in GW? I think if you did then you didn't put much effort into it. Have you tried team arenas? Or even going head to head against a group of heavily trained Koreans? You're a ****ing idiot if you call that "brainpower of a rock" because THAT is challenging as hell. All teammates have to do their part. I've seen one ranger who was left alive in a party and facing a full party of opponents able to hold them off long enough to rez our monk, who then healed the ranger, then rezzed the rest of the party, and take the team to victory.

That DOES NOT happen in WoW. If you fight someone two levels above you then you're screwed. If you have an entire party after you then you have NO chance of survival. That's not how it is in GW. God, you WoW fanboys never cease to crack me up. GW is all about strategy and skill, WoW is all about who has the best firepower.

on the other hand...if you dont mind the measily 12 bucks a month for WoW and like a game with tons of depth, not a measily 20 lvl cap, (in WoW you can lvl skills to 300 and yourself to 60) choosing horde/alliance which is absolutely brilliant, pvp that is far superior...then maybe WoW is for you.

I found this one interesting. I didn't mind the measily 12 bucks. WoW still sucked. WoW+Depth just doesn't mix. The game has a more pathetic plot than WC3. Lol, you people are still crying about the level cap for GW? That's getting a little old. So what if the level cap is 20? Most MMOG's can go for 100+ levels, but I never saw anyone bitch about the level 60 cap in WoW. Funny thing huh.

Wow, yes, I do agree. Choosing the side of good and evil is a brilliant idea! Why didn't they think up that idea a long time ago? It's only been in every RPG that's ever existed. ~sighs and rolls his eyes~ How old are you, I'm 20, so I've played the old time stuff. Did your mommy finally get you a computer?

Now the greatest thing in that entire sentence is when you said WoW PvP is superior. Ok, get this thought in your head. You're a lowly little dwarven Paladin walking down a path, killing monsters as you go. Then suddenly, out of nowhere, an Orc appears, someone who is levels above you, and attacks you on sight. He easily kills you.

Then he camps your corpse, waiting for you to return to your body. Then he attacks and kills you again. And again. And again. And again. I'm sure you get the point.

Oh, here's another example. It's evenly sided between both alliance and horde. Three horde members charge toward your cleric for an easy kill, kills your cleric off without too much problem, then while you're trying to fight back, one of their wizards blasts you with lightning, focusing on just one person, kills your buddy off without much problem. I don't need to go through much of that.

Now let me explain to you an experience I had in GW. Two warriors charged me, I cast mindburn on one and it takes him down most of his hp. They start attacking me me but I cast energizing wind then rodgorts and mindburn again, killing off that warrior. Then I am healed for whatever damage I recieve from my healer, one of my warrior buddies see me in trouble and severs artery then gashes the person who is attacking me.

I use fire atunement then mindburn again. By that time spells are costing hardly a thing to me. One of their Mesmers cast a spell on our healer so each time our healer casts a spell they take damage. Despite that our healer decides to keep us alive and keeps taking damage. I used pheonix on the Mesmer and they causes damage to the mesmer and the enemy healer. Our healer dies and the warrior that was helping me takes a few seconds to use a rez signet on our healer, bringing her instantly back alive while I used mindburn again on the enemy warrior trying to kill me and take him out.

I don't feel like going through the rest of that battle. But I will tell you that although we were doing great, we still lost the battle. But even after we lost I felt some great satisfaction with how I did in the midst of combat? You know what I felt when I fought in PvP in WoW? Nothing at all, there is no strategy to that game. If you are a few levels higher and have even a slightly better weapon then your opponents then you'll win. And you say that's superior? You're pathetic.

i remember this aydrian kid from back before gzp got pwned. i almost feel bad for him.

Not nearly as bad as I'm feeling about you. For one, as stated above, I'm twenty and I don't like to follow the masses when I don't like a game. If that means I'm a kid then I'm still better then you can ever hope to accomplish. You have something to say about all this pwnage I just put on your pathetic response to my opinion of this game? Then peel off that "Property of Blizzard" sticker on your ass and come back here at me with something that qualifies as an intelligent response.

Otherwise, get the **** out and go play your kiddie game. It's only right for children to remain at the kiddie table while the grownups play all the fun stuff. People like you are only pathetic little punks to me, you could never get to my level, no matter how much you insult me, or come at me with your diluted since of gaming.

And yes, I was here before GzP had it's little problem. You'd think that the lesson would have been learned then, and people like you would stay the **** away. But I guess that's asking too much from kids. Bring it on.

As for you, tabriz, I'm just aching to get started with your post, but I'll do that tomorrow. Right now, I'm going out with my woman. Oh yeah, wait, don't want to confuse you both again. Here ya go:

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I guess you can learn something new every day huh. ;)

Edit: I thought I should add something.

The worst days of my life kind of coincides with the best days of your lives. The moment you two were born was the worst days of my life. It's the best day of your lives because it's the only time either of you will ever see female genitalia.

tabriz · 01-21-2006, 01:08 AM

WoW > gw
mounts > no mounts
60 cap > 20 cap
WoW pvp > gw pvp
swim/jump > no swim/jump
horde/alliance > nothing
races/classes/professions > professions
10 chars on diff servers (and server types) horde and alliance > 4 chars
more mature players > less mature kiddies
better gameplay > worse gameplay

unfortuantely i dont have the time to sit and write novels comparing good/bad between 2 games or this list would be about 40 pages long. ive got about 3 minutes.

anyways you are entitled to your opinion as i am as well but on that note...it really is sad how worked up this gw fanboy (aydrian) gets over someone elses opinion on a game....lol! funny kid.

well this is my last response to this thread. i would hate to watch the evening news and here of some kid committing suicide over someone voicing an opinion that differs from his on a gaming forum. :(

oh yea...im older than you also kid...so from now on you can address me as Sir.

btw anyone know if gw will delete accounts that arent used for a certain period? i have two accounts and on one of them it has about 165 ectos and 180 shards and probably close to 500k. i havent logged on to either now for probably 2 months...

Exploit · 01-21-2006, 06:06 AM

Great, two children, I've been waiting for a challenge although this can hardly be considered one. I'm bored and feel like doing something in depth. Ok, starting with Exploit.

First of all, no ones insulting anyone. Secondly, just like him, you address me as either Exploit or Sir. Thanks. :)

Jumping to lower spots in WoW is pointless. Why, you might ask? Because of how the enemies are positioned. Let me go into some strategy with you. I've been all the way through this game several times. Monsters patrol and are usually on certain paths where you always have to fight at least half of the patrols on the map or run through them at least.

This is why they should of added it BEFORE they released the game.

The funny thing about that comment is that if it had taken so much from WoW as you had claimed, then it'd be much more widely popular.

You agree WoW is better then?

It's comments like that that make me despise WoW fanboys, you think anyone who hates WoW are idiots. And I know you're lying about a few things. Namely the meeting more 10 year old kiddies in GW than you did WoW.

I never said I met "more" 10 year old kids in either game. It's comments like yours that make me despise GW fanboys. This was a discussion, not a fight. Just because WoW has more stuff to do then GW doesnt mean you need to bash it. You keep calling anyone who likes WoW a kid...how is that? You know, its like the old saying "You are what you eat." but in this case I think it goes more like "You are what you wont stop calling other people." I really bet you're like 13-15, and calling others kids.

Want help on a quest in WoW? Do NOT ask for it unless you ask a Guildmate. Because if you ask for some help in a city half of them will call you "G4y" or a "F4g", and prepare to hear the word "n00b" every few seconds.

Lie, one word.

Did you even try the PvP in GW? I think if you did then you didn't put much effort into it. Have you tried team arenas? Or even going head to head against a group of heavily trained Koreans? You're a ****ing idiot if you call that "brainpower of a rock" because THAT is challenging as hell.

I've unlocked the whole game. Including the newest thing that lets you unlock assassin skills.

That DOES NOT happen in WoW. If you fight someone two levels above you then you're screwed. If you have an entire party after you then you have NO chance of survival. That's not how it is in GW. God, you WoW fanboys never cease to crack me up. GW is all about strategy and skill, WoW is all about who has the best firepower

Actually, I can beat people alot higher then me. ALOT. Yes, you can get away from entire parties. A fully equiped necro vs a naked necro...hmm, who wins? You cant hold down a reasonable arguement.

but I never saw anyone bitch about the level 60 cap in WoW. Funny thing huh.

Because it takes longer then a quarter of a day to hit.

You're a lowly little dwarven Paladin walking down a path, killing monsters as you go. Then suddenly, out of nowhere, an Orc appears, someone who is levels above you, and attacks you on sight. He easily kills you.

Thats what happens when you go on a PVP server...deal with it.

Then he camps your corpse, waiting for you to return to your body. Then he attacks and kills you again. And again. And again. And again. I'm sure you get the point.

People who are loads higher then you, kill you and run off to do what they were doing before...unless they just run past you. No extremely high level will camp some corpse he doesnt even get honor from. If you cant kill someone 2 levels higher, I know for a fact you can run. Even if they are two levels higher...you running will make them take a long time to kill you. Like I said above...lies.

Oh, here's another example. It's evenly sided between both alliance and horde. Three horde members charge toward your cleric for an easy kill, kills your cleric off without too much problem, then while you're trying to fight back, one of their wizards blasts you with lightning, focusing on just one person, kills your buddy off without much problem. I don't need to go through much of that.

First of all, priests dont die easy. They can Fear/Bubble/run or even attack. My friends priest owns anything. Everything takes time to beat unless you're 30 levels higher. Just because you suck and couldnt hit 60 and start to do what you're complaining about (killing low levels) doesnt mean the game itself sucks.

I cast mindburn on one and it takes him down most of his hp.

omgz, dat not challenging at all! zomg gw suxorz - Dont be a hypocrite.

Otherwise, get the **** out and go play your kiddie game. It's only right for children to remain at the kiddie table while the grownups play all the fun stuff.

Ok..let me break this down for you so it is easy to understand.

1. If you like worse graphics, play GW.
2. If you like to never win unless you've beaten the game and unlocked all the skills for your character...play GW.
3. If you want to not be able to walk up cliffs that are / big, play GW.
4. If you dont wanna be able to move around, have the camera not follow you, and not be able to swim, play GW.
5. If you want to wait 2 hours to get a party so you can go get the Ressurection Signet on the FIRST ISLAND, play GW.

I'm sure I could toss up a few more, but I've made my point loud, big and clear.

The worst days of my life kind of coincides with the best days of your lives. The moment you two were born was the worst days of my life. It's the best day of your lives because it's the only time either of you will ever see female genitalia.

You know, you truely are retarded for even writing that. I mean, first of all..."Kid" is the only thing you call people who dont agree with you. Woman, eh? You made him wait that long so you could type out something? GG, you're dumb.

Oh yeah, here is something I think needs to be requoted...me being a WoW fanboy an all.

WoW > GW
Mounts > No mounts
60 Cap > 20 Cap
WoW PvP > GW PvP
Swimming/Jumping > No Swimming/Jumping
Classes/Race/Professions > No Races/Professions
Many types of Servers > No servers
Horde and Alliance > Nothing
10 Characters > 4 Characters

And for my last bit of debate, the grand fanale, quoting someone who quoted me....

A WoW hater is just as bad as a GW hater. You aren't special.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and dont cuts out bits of my post and cut out everything you cant even say anything against because I'm right. Thanks.

- Exploit

Aydrian · 01-21-2006, 08:26 AM

I must admit I'm disappointed. Woke up this morning and was hoping to see some intelligent responses. Instead, all you and tabriz pretty much said is "I'm right you're wrong so screw you."

Did you even try? ALL of your answers were pretty much "I'm right you're wrong" at least mine proved points, all yours did was provide some amusement. Just a minute, I mod a gaming forum of my own, the 1500+ members might like to see how sad this was. Oh, and tabriz I haven't forgotten about you yet, don't worry. All children will be handled in due time.

01-16-2006, 05:41 PM	#1
Aydrian Registered User Last Online: 02-05-2008 07:34 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 152 Times in 22 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 4,043.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,043.00 Donate	For the GW Haters I wrote this on MMORPG.com, decided to put it on here. I like this game, and a lot of the time I feel the need to defend it against the GW haters, so check this out. ***** And yes, player skill matters a lot more than hours played in this game. In WoW, if you're even two levels above your opponent you can usually own them without a problem. But in this game, stategy and real skills matter the most. Reasons I Liked This Game -No Ksing -I haven't met many immature people. So I don't know what they're crying about. -It's something new. MMOG's like WoW are the same candy in a different wrapper. -The founders are employees who have done great things for gaming in their lives. They're not idiots. -I can walk outside and not see a dozen different people killing the exact same monster I am. People fail to remember that can bring more boredom than immersion. Because I fail to see the fun at watching someone with the same weapon kill the same monster at the same speed I am. So I don't see why so many people whine and cry about instancing. -I have played a lot of PvP, and have rarely been called a n00b, or a ****, or anything like that. I won't get ganked by some 1337 speaking 12 year old who thinks he's the hottest thing to come along since the invention of videogames. Want to see the pinnacle of human stupidity, go to a WoW forum. Trust me, if someone put 90% of WoW's fanbase into a room then nuked it, the world would probably be better for it. -I have met a lot of cool people in this game. Almost everyone I've partied with is on my friends list. -Streaming updates! Dear God the streaming updates are so fast and simple. -VERY quick install speed. I got it installed in less then a minute and updated completely in less than two. WoW takes me a good 10-15 minutes to completely install. Kinda sad. -No monthly fee! A game that looks and plays this good without robbing me of my hard earned money! They even gave the players an expansion size update for free and gave the players the music for that update for free! What are you paying for in WoW? To be called a "gay fag" and for Paladins to get destroyed while they make Shamans more and more powerful? -Best PvP ever. Period. 'nuff said. Now let me explain a few things that bug me. People say that a lot of kids that can't afford MMOG's moved into this game because there is no fee. Well, I don't know what fantasy word they're living in but they're mostly full of crap. That's an excuse. I know very damn well that most parents are willing to cough up a measly $15 a month for their kids. Now, I know not all families have money, but look at how many people are members of WoW. And 90% of them are definitely 16 and younger. Does that LOOK like a small percentage to you? I'm 20 years old and can afford monthly fees, so can others younger and older than me. Most of the time anyway. Nonetheless, I'm one of the people who believe monthly fees are bs. A lot of people think that too. So before the crybabies say "Only kids play GW because they don't have to pay a fee" they really need to stare down the business end of a shotgun and pull the trigger because that excuse is getting a bit old. And I'm not going to list the bad traits. I'll tell you why. All of the GW haters take some of the smallest things and blow them out of proportion. You can't jump! You can't jump in 99% of the MMOG's today. What's your damn point you pathetic WoW fanboy? The areas are instanced! Yeah, it's called change. Get used to it, because many newer MMOG's will be taking stuff from this game. Characters don't move right! Yeah, the same thing can be said about WoW, Final Fantasy 11, SilkRoad, Star Wars Galaxies etc. Even in the new Dungeons and Dragons Online. So what exactly are you expecting to see here? Come back to me when you have an intelligent response. There isn't any mounts! Wow, that's a great loss isn't it? If you find some amusement sitting on a horses back that can't do anything more then get you from point "a to b" then go play WoW. Most of the mounts in that game are utterly useless. And in an instanced game like this, mounts would be meaningless. Think, will you? You can't swim! Why would I want to? Oh goody, there's a pretty little pond over there, I'm going to go waste my time by swimming in it, thus providing a distraction that makes the game longer and more boring, and if the game has a fee, then it's just a way to make you waste time to pay more money. This might come as a shock to some of you naive children, but those little distractions ADD UP, that's why they were put there. They aren't there for your amusement, they're there to distract you. You can't get the mega 1337 sword of ultimate ungodly doom and own all with it! Yeah, that means the players themselves have to have the gaming aptitude of a monkey. What a shame. It must be so hard to actually have to strategize. If you don't know what strategize means, look it up. Because I doubt most GW haters know what that is. I think that's it. I wrote this up on the fly and while being tired as hell. The point of this all is that very tiny problems are overblown and stacked upon each other by the GW haters. I've never seen so many crybabies in my entire life whine about the smallest things like the GW haters have for this game. It's saddening to see what these so called "gamers" are reducing themselves to. Oh well, to each his/her own.

01-17-2006, 01:04 AM	#2
monkeyninja I BAN JOOOO!!!!!!! Last Online: 07-29-2008 12:36 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 632 Thanks: 10 Thanked 119 Times in 50 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 8,167.52 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 8,167.52 Donate	Re: For the GW Haters ****n well said. Stickied so any more WoW/EQ2 wankers come in might be able to see this

01-17-2006, 09:38 AM	#3
Ender Registered User Last Online: 11-17-2007 11:38 PM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 40.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 40.00 Donate	Re: For the GW Haters I agree with everything you have said except for 2 points that you have made. I have been playing this game from the start, I dont know how often or how long you have played, but you must be blind to the immaturity and stupidity that plagues this wonderfull game. Every corner i turn, every group i find there is a 12 year old with something to prove welcoming me. As for pvp... Have you not seen how people demand r3++ and if you arnt, your a "nub". Anyways, other than that, Good job ;)

01-17-2006, 10:04 AM	#4
Kerrebrys Banned Last Online: 10-19-2006 08:12 PM Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: London, England Age: 17 Posts: 1,324 Thanks: 25 Thanked 140 Times in 54 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 4,843.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,843.00 Donate	Re: For the GW Haters I recently started playing GW, and it's a wonderful game. Solo-combat-areas was a fantastic idea - it's removed the whole aspect of PKers from what could have been a very easily exploited MMORPG. The fact that you can only play with people you want to is brilliant. I say that pretty much everything you say is right, except for the immaturity thing - certainly in pre-searing Ascalon, there are quite a few female players dancing, er, ahem... "Sine clothing"...

01-20-2006, 05:12 PM	#5
Exploit Registered User Last Online: 07-10-2008 08:07 AM Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 177 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 1,757.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 1,757.00 Donate	Re: For the GW Haters I disagree with most of what you said. I agree GW is a good game, but the not being able to jump off small cliffs and having to go around it is pretty lame. Swimming takes away from 30% of the monsters they could have added in the game to make it more enjoyable. Mounts...not really needed, yet GW has taken so much from WoW it was smart they didnt make these or it'd be judged as a complete remake. The camera doesnt even follow you when you turn...thats lame. GW does take alot more "skill" to win, its not all about armor...however, that is a big help...and with better armor you'll most likely when unless you completely suck. The immature part is in every game, you cant get away with it. There is immature people on the net, which means they will be in all the games too. Just because you havent seen them (which I doubt you havent) doesnt mean they arent there. First you complain about people complaining about not being able to afford WoW, then you yourself talk about how GW is free, and isnt "robbing" you. The reason GW takes such a short time is because it doesnt have swimming/jumping and all that other good stuff. WoW does. WoW is also ALOT. bigger. Just because you suck at WoW PVP doesnt mean you get to call anyone 12 year olds. That's what happens when you join a PVP server. You get ganked. WoW has way better graphics then GW, and GW is just like every other "candy". It has classes, no races (wtf is with that?) and you basically pick 1-2 things and you stick with it till end game. You have to unlock stuff to play, which means no PVP till you have beaten the game at least once. WoW employees aren't idiots...of course everyone has their downside but I've never even spoken with a GM in GW before. In GW NO ONE talks to anyone they dont know unless they want something. In WoW people actually talk. Lets see...what else? If you get mocked/insulted you usually did something to deserve it. No one comes up to you and randomly says "hey **** u suck my cock u pansy whore". In GW the instances are kinda bad, leveling by myself is amazingly boring. No one likes partying for anything but PVP and raiding. I'll update this later, but just so you know... A WoW hater is just as bad as a GW hater. You aren't special. Last edited by Exploit; 01-20-2006 at 05:14 PM.

01-20-2006, 07:23 PM	#6
tabriz Registered User Last Online: 09-29-2006 06:29 PM Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 179 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 30.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 30.00 Donate	Re: For the GW Haters well written Exploit. WoW pvp > gw pvp. no question about it. just because you suck doesnt mean IT sucks. no jumping/swimming is retarded. have you ever walked from darnassus to ironforge maybe in WoW? could take around 30 minutes (without using the hypogryphs) but with a mount not nearly that long. immature in WoW but not in gw? laughing 90% are definetely under 16? laughing are you sure you have ever played an online game cause with those idiotic statements its resonable to assume you havent. i met more 10 year old kiddies in gw in 4 hours than i think i have ever in hundreds of hours of WoW. lets put it this way...if you want a game that can be beaten in 5 days with a bunch of 10 year old kiddies that only talk when they/you need something, takes the brain power of a rock and has no depth to the game...well then sure gw is for you. on the other hand...if you dont mind the measily 12 bucks a month for WoW and like a game with tons of depth, not a measily 20 lvl cap, (in WoW you can lvl skills to 300 and yourself to 60) choosing horde/alliance which is absolutely brilliant, pvp that is far superior...then maybe WoW is for you. :) yea yea...bring on the haters. as Exploit said " A WoW hater is just as bad as a GW hater. You aren't special." agreed 110% i remember this aydrian kid from back before gzp got pwned. i almost feel bad for him.

01-20-2006, 11:37 PM	#7
Aydrian Registered User Last Online: 02-05-2008 07:34 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 152 Times in 22 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 4,043.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,043.00 Donate	Re: For the GW Haters Great, two children, I've been waiting for a challenge although this can hardly be considered one. I'm bored and feel like doing something in depth. Ok, starting with Exploit. I agree GW is a good game, but the not being able to jump off small cliffs and having to go around it is pretty lame. I'm not too fascinated with jumping. Here's a little fact you might like. The three founders of Anet worked for Blizzard, one was the architected of Battle.net. And one of the other two was a WoW TEAM LEAD. If they thought jumping would benefit you at all in this game then they could have easily added it, seeing as they did it once before. Jumping to lower spots in WoW is pointless. Why, you might ask? Because of how the enemies are positioned. Let me go into some strategy with you. I've been all the way through this game several times. Monsters patrol and are usually on certain paths where you always have to fight at least half of the patrols on the map or run through them at least. Jumping down to lower ledges can easily make you avoid most of the enemies in the game, causing it to become a lot more easier then it already is. If they had implemented jumping, they would have had to completely reposition all the enemies, probably change their stats, and whatever spells they can cast. Change all of that, because someone loves to jump up and down like a child. I'm glad they left jumping out. It gave me more of a challenge. Mounts...not really needed, yet GW has taken so much from WoW it was smart they didnt make these or it'd be judged as a complete remake. The funny thing about that comment is that if it had taken so much from WoW as you had claimed, then it'd be much more widely popular. Also, mounts in instanced areas would have completely destroyed any challenge in the game whatsoever. This might come as a surprise to you, but there were actually MMOG's BEFORE WoW. WoW took upon heavily from other MMOG's, so don't get too proud by your comment. It doesn't quite hold up. Also, if GW was anywhere near the perfect remake then I wouldn't have played it at all. I played both WoW and GW extensively, and the games are very much different. Comparing them is like comparing ice to fire. immature in WoW but not in gw? laughing 90% are definetely under 16? laughing are you sure you have ever played an online game cause with those idiotic statements its resonable to assume you havent. i met more 10 year old kiddies in gw in 4 hours than i think i have ever in hundreds of hours of WoW. In my 400+ hours of game time in GW I have never encountered anyone rude. I've 90+ hours of that is PvP, the rest PvE. I have heard of others complaining about immaturity in GW, and honestly I believe them. But I have yet to encounter it. Also, my statements are not idiotic. It's comments like that that make me despise WoW fanboys, you think anyone who hates WoW are idiots. And I know you're lying about a few things. Namely the meeting more 10 year old kiddies in GW than you did WoW. It's rather obvious that you're siding with WoW and letting your opinions be so influenced by your fanboyish pride that any other games that challenge WoW's lofty throne are horrible games. I was ganked more times in WoW by 1337 speaking children than any other game I've ever played. If you walk into a city ANYONE can see the stupid convos that go on there. Want help on a quest in WoW? Do NOT ask for it unless you ask a Guildmate. Because if you ask for some help in a city half of them will call you "G4y" or a "F4g", and prepare to hear the word "n00b" every few seconds. I am still yet to be called any of that in GW. Sure, sometimes people smacktalk, but if they didn't then it wouldn't be competitive. But the people in WoW go too far. They insult to a point where many people just quit the game because they cannot get along with the community. So I have no idea what you seem to think you know about, but if anyone here is being an idiot, it's the person with his head shoved firmly up Blizzards ass. lets put it this way...if you want a game that can be beaten in 5 days with a bunch of 10 year old kiddies that only talk when they/you need something, takes the brain power of a rock and has no depth to the game...well then sure gw is for you. It can be beaten in 5 days yes. But only if you play it obsessively. And this game was not EVER meant to be played as obsessively as WoW. And (shock) right on the box it says CORPG. I wonder why it's called that. Hmm, could it possibly, JUST MAYBE, be called that because it's for people who love PvP? Well, damn, I think I'm right there. Whoah, an epiphany! This game might actually be a Competitive Online RPG, or maybe a Cooperative Online RPG. Hmm, I've always considered it both. And "takes the brain power of a rock" you say? Yeah, and pressing your mouse once and allowing your person to attack, everyonce in awhile using some stupid skill to make the thing dead a tad faster, requires much more intellignce? Forgive me, I guess you must be right. Did you even try the PvP in GW? I think if you did then you didn't put much effort into it. Have you tried team arenas? Or even going head to head against a group of heavily trained Koreans? You're a **ing idiot if you call that "brainpower of a rock" because THAT is challenging as hell. All teammates have to do their part. I've seen one ranger who was left alive in a party and facing a full party of opponents able to hold them off long enough to rez our monk, who then healed the ranger, then rezzed the rest of the party, and take the team to victory. That DOES NOT happen in WoW. If you fight someone two levels above you then you're screwed. If you have an entire party after you then you have NO chance of survival. That's not how it is in GW. God, you WoW fanboys never cease to crack me up. GW is all about strategy and skill, WoW is all about who has the best firepower. on the other hand...if you dont mind the measily 12 bucks a month for WoW and like a game with tons of depth, not a measily 20 lvl cap, (in WoW you can lvl skills to 300 and yourself to 60) choosing horde/alliance which is absolutely brilliant, pvp that is far superior...then maybe WoW is for you. I found this one interesting. I didn't mind the measily 12 bucks. WoW still sucked. WoW+Depth just doesn't mix. The game has a more pathetic plot than WC3. Lol, you people are still crying about the level cap for GW? That's getting a little old. So what if the level cap is 20? Most MMOG's can go for 100+ levels, but I never saw anyone bitch about the level 60 cap in WoW. Funny thing huh. Wow, yes, I do agree. Choosing the side of good and evil is a brilliant idea! Why didn't they think up that idea a long time ago? It's only been in every RPG that's ever existed. ~sighs and rolls his eyes~ How old are you, I'm 20, so I've played the old time stuff. Did your mommy finally get you a computer? Now the greatest thing in that entire sentence is when you said WoW PvP is superior. Ok, get this thought in your head. You're a lowly little dwarven Paladin walking down a path, killing monsters as you go. Then suddenly, out of nowhere, an Orc appears, someone who is levels above you, and attacks you on sight. He easily kills you. Then he camps your corpse, waiting for you to return to your body. Then he attacks and kills you again. And again. And again. And again. I'm sure you get the point. Oh, here's another example. It's evenly sided between both alliance and horde. Three horde members charge toward your cleric for an easy kill, kills your cleric off without too much problem, then while you're trying to fight back, one of their wizards blasts you with lightning, focusing on just one person, kills your buddy off without much problem. I don't need to go through much of that. Now let me explain to you an experience I had in GW. Two warriors charged me, I cast mindburn on one and it takes him down most of his hp. They start attacking me me but I cast energizing wind then rodgorts and mindburn again, killing off that warrior. Then I am healed for whatever damage I recieve from my healer, one of my warrior buddies see me in trouble and severs artery then gashes the person who is attacking me. I use fire atunement then mindburn again. By that time spells are costing hardly a thing to me. One of their Mesmers cast a spell on our healer so each time our healer casts a spell they take damage. Despite that our healer decides to keep us alive and keeps taking damage. I used pheonix on the Mesmer and they causes damage to the mesmer and the enemy healer. Our healer dies and the warrior that was helping me takes a few seconds to use a rez signet on our healer, bringing her instantly back alive while I used mindburn again on the enemy warrior trying to kill me and take him out. I don't feel like going through the rest of that battle. But I will tell you that although we were doing great, we still lost the battle. But even after we lost I felt some great satisfaction with how I did in the midst of combat? You know what I felt when I fought in PvP in WoW? Nothing at all, there is no strategy to that game. If you are a few levels higher and have even a slightly better weapon then your opponents then you'll win. And you say that's superior? You're pathetic. i remember this aydrian kid from back before gzp got pwned. i almost feel bad for him. Not nearly as bad as I'm feeling about you. For one, as stated above, I'm twenty and I don't like to follow the masses when I don't like a game. If that means I'm a kid then I'm still better then you can ever hope to accomplish. You have something to say about all this pwnage I just put on your pathetic response to my opinion of this game? Then peel off that "Property of Blizzard" sticker on your ass and come back here at me with something that qualifies as an intelligent response. Otherwise, get the out and go play your kiddie game. It's only right for children to remain at the kiddie table while the grownups play all the fun stuff. People like you are only pathetic little punks to me, you could never get to my level, no matter how much you insult me, or come at me with your diluted since of gaming. And yes, I was here before GzP had it's little problem. You'd think that the lesson would have been learned then, and people like you would stay the away. But I guess that's asking too much from kids. Bring it on. As for you, tabriz, I'm just aching to get started with your post, but I'll do that tomorrow. Right now, I'm going out with my woman. Oh yeah, wait, don't want to confuse you both again. Here ya go: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]** I guess you can learn something new every day huh. ;) Edit: I thought I should add something. The worst days of my life kind of coincides with the best days of your lives. The moment you two were born was the worst days of my life. It's the best day of your lives because it's the only time either of you will ever see female genitalia. Last edited by Aydrian; 01-20-2006 at 11:51 PM.

01-21-2006, 01:08 AM	#8
tabriz Registered User Last Online: 09-29-2006 06:29 PM Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 179 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 30.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 30.00 Donate	Re: For the GW Haters WoW > gw mounts > no mounts 60 cap > 20 cap WoW pvp > gw pvp swim/jump > no swim/jump horde/alliance > nothing races/classes/professions > professions 10 chars on diff servers (and server types) horde and alliance > 4 chars more mature players > less mature kiddies better gameplay > worse gameplay unfortuantely i dont have the time to sit and write novels comparing good/bad between 2 games or this list would be about 40 pages long. ive got about 3 minutes. anyways you are entitled to your opinion as i am as well but on that note...it really is sad how worked up this gw fanboy (aydrian) gets over someone elses opinion on a game....lol! funny kid. well this is my last response to this thread. i would hate to watch the evening news and here of some kid committing suicide over someone voicing an opinion that differs from his on a gaming forum. :( oh yea...im older than you also kid...so from now on you can address me as Sir. btw anyone know if gw will delete accounts that arent used for a certain period? i have two accounts and on one of them it has about 165 ectos and 180 shards and probably close to 500k. i havent logged on to either now for probably 2 months... Last edited by tabriz; 01-21-2006 at 08:57 AM.

01-21-2006, 06:06 AM	#9
Exploit Registered User Last Online: 07-10-2008 08:07 AM Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 177 Thanks: 3 Thanked 15 Times in 7 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 1,757.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 1,757.00 Donate	Re: For the GW Haters Great, two children, I've been waiting for a challenge although this can hardly be considered one. I'm bored and feel like doing something in depth. Ok, starting with Exploit. First of all, no ones insulting anyone. Secondly, just like him, you address me as either Exploit or Sir. Thanks. :) Jumping to lower spots in WoW is pointless. Why, you might ask? Because of how the enemies are positioned. Let me go into some strategy with you. I've been all the way through this game several times. Monsters patrol and are usually on certain paths where you always have to fight at least half of the patrols on the map or run through them at least. This is why they should of added it BEFORE they released the game. The funny thing about that comment is that if it had taken so much from WoW as you had claimed, then it'd be much more widely popular. You agree WoW is better then? It's comments like that that make me despise WoW fanboys, you think anyone who hates WoW are idiots. And I know you're lying about a few things. Namely the meeting more 10 year old kiddies in GW than you did WoW. I never said I met "more" 10 year old kids in either game. It's comments like yours that make me despise GW fanboys. This was a discussion, not a fight. Just because WoW has more stuff to do then GW doesnt mean you need to bash it. You keep calling anyone who likes WoW a kid...how is that? You know, its like the old saying "You are what you eat." but in this case I think it goes more like "You are what you wont stop calling other people." I really bet you're like 13-15, and calling others kids. Want help on a quest in WoW? Do NOT ask for it unless you ask a Guildmate. Because if you ask for some help in a city half of them will call you "G4y" or a "F4g", and prepare to hear the word "n00b" every few seconds. Lie, one word. Did you even try the PvP in GW? I think if you did then you didn't put much effort into it. Have you tried team arenas? Or even going head to head against a group of heavily trained Koreans? You're a **ing idiot if you call that "brainpower of a rock" because THAT is challenging as hell. I've unlocked the whole game. Including the newest thing that lets you unlock assassin skills. That DOES NOT happen in WoW. If you fight someone two levels above you then you're screwed. If you have an entire party after you then you have NO chance of survival. That's not how it is in GW. God, you WoW fanboys never cease to crack me up. GW is all about strategy and skill, WoW is all about who has the best firepower Actually, I can beat people alot higher then me. ALOT. Yes, you can get away from entire parties. A fully equiped necro vs a naked necro...hmm, who wins? You cant hold down a reasonable arguement. but I never saw anyone bitch about the level 60 cap in WoW. Funny thing huh. Because it takes longer then a quarter of a day to hit. You're a lowly little dwarven Paladin walking down a path, killing monsters as you go. Then suddenly, out of nowhere, an Orc appears, someone who is levels above you, and attacks you on sight. He easily kills you. Thats what happens when you go on a PVP server...deal with it. Then he camps your corpse, waiting for you to return to your body. Then he attacks and kills you again. And again. And again. And again. I'm sure you get the point. People who are loads higher then you, kill you and run off to do what they were doing before...unless they just run past you. No extremely high level will camp some corpse he doesnt even get honor from. If you cant kill someone 2 levels higher, I know for a fact you can run. Even if they are two levels higher...you running will make them take a long time to kill you. Like I said above...lies. Oh, here's another example. It's evenly sided between both alliance and horde. Three horde members charge toward your cleric for an easy kill, kills your cleric off without too much problem, then while you're trying to fight back, one of their wizards blasts you with lightning, focusing on just one person, kills your buddy off without much problem. I don't need to go through much of that. First of all, priests dont die easy. They can Fear/Bubble/run or even attack. My friends priest owns anything. Everything takes time to beat unless you're 30 levels higher. Just because you suck and couldnt hit 60 and start to do what you're complaining about (killing low levels) doesnt mean the game itself sucks. I cast mindburn on one and it takes him down most of his hp. omgz, dat not challenging at all! zomg gw suxorz - Dont be a hypocrite. Otherwise, get the ** out and go play your kiddie game. It's only right for children to remain at the kiddie table while the grownups play all the fun stuff. Ok..let me break this down for you so it is easy to understand. 1. If you like worse graphics, play GW. 2. If you like to never win unless you've beaten the game and unlocked all the skills for your character...play GW. 3. If you want to not be able to walk up cliffs that are / big, play GW. 4. If you dont wanna be able to move around, have the camera not follow you, and not be able to swim, play GW. 5. If you want to wait 2 hours to get a party so you can go get the Ressurection Signet on the FIRST ISLAND, play GW. I'm sure I could toss up a few more, but I've made my point loud, big and clear. The worst days of my life kind of coincides with the best days of your lives. The moment you two were born was the worst days of my life. It's the best day of your lives because it's the only time either of you will ever see female genitalia. You know, you truely are retarded for even writing that. I mean, first of all..."Kid" is the only thing you call people who dont agree with you. Woman, eh? You made him wait that long so you could type out something? GG, you're dumb. Oh yeah, here is something I think needs to be requoted...me being a WoW fanboy an all. WoW > GW Mounts > No mounts 60 Cap > 20 Cap WoW PvP > GW PvP Swimming/Jumping > No Swimming/Jumping Classes/Race/Professions > No Races/Professions Many types of Servers > No servers Horde and Alliance > Nothing 10 Characters > 4 Characters And for my last bit of debate, the grand fanale, quoting someone who quoted me.... A WoW hater is just as bad as a GW hater. You aren't special. EDIT: Oh yeah, and dont cuts out bits of my post and cut out everything you cant even say anything against because I'm right. Thanks. - Exploit Last edited by Exploit; 01-21-2006 at 06:12 AM.

01-21-2006, 08:26 AM	#10
Aydrian Registered User Last Online: 02-05-2008 07:34 AM Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 152 Times in 22 Posts iTrader: 0 / 0% Points: 4,043.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,043.00 Donate	Re: For the GW Haters I must admit I'm disappointed. Woke up this morning and was hoping to see some intelligent responses. Instead, all you and tabriz pretty much said is "I'm right you're wrong so screw you." Did you even try? ALL of your answers were pretty much "I'm right you're wrong" at least mine proved points, all yours did was provide some amusement. Just a minute, I mod a gaming forum of my own, the 1500+ members might like to see how sad this was. Oh, and tabriz I haven't forgotten about you yet, don't worry. All children will be handled in due time.

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