Pudge,Butcher Guide by DevoX

[DevoX]

Really ? ok i edit my post and put it

[Higaki]

wow nice guide!i can see that u have put much effort on putting this guide up espicially the screenshoot.however,for me i will upgrade void stone to euls 1st that proceed to the other item(more mana as pudge if no mana = useless)

overall nice guide!! + rep!!

[saint]

First of all,there are different skill builds.Getting flesh heap first isnt stupid.In fact,its smart.For people who can farm well,meaning you get last hits on creeps,your str,base damage and hit points will increase significantly by the time you notice it.

The skill builds have similarities.Saying on how dumb people are to get flesh heap first isnt quite the right way of voicing out your thoughts.And that concept overall is also wrong,or should I say,inexperienced.

If you're prepared to post a guide,be prepared to receive compliments or constructive critism.The critism directed towards you which in my view isnt a flame.

OMG why will u think that this is a copy 1 !!! Pudge only have 1 SKILL BUILT !! The only 1 Skill Build is THIS !!! Who the **** is so dumb that learn Hook and flesh heap first !!! PS: THIS IS NOT A COPY 1

Pudge has 1 skill build?Nonsense.

How about the 17-25. Stats?
This is a Shortcut i dont wanna to waste the spaces !!!!

Who was commenting on that?That's common sense.

Double Post ? Tripe post ?
Because i cannot save all of them in 1 post unless you are god.

I know,I have been in this forum longer than you.But I believe that in your 1st post,you could have stored in more information if I am not mistaken.

Why is the Skill Built in Red Colour
Because red is a nice colour that allow poeple to see more clearly

Again,no one is commenting you on that.

(Try First Blood)
Trust me you can really First Blood first !!! Thats why i wrote that
If u dont believe try it. Hook and rot =First blood

No one was complaining whether you first blood or you dont.And either way,hooking and rotting doesnt mean first blood.Others might just equally get first blood faster than you.There's no way you can determine who gets it first.Cut that concept from your mind.

What the hell u want me to do ? LOOK AT MY USERNAME !! Its DevoX
NOT FEN OKAY ? DONT COMPARE HIM WITH ME !!! IF YOUR ARE STILL NOT HAPPY WITH THIS. PM ME OR REPLY HERE I DELETE AND **** OFF FROM HERE.
Thanks!

I can clearly differ between two members.No one is comparing you to him.The only one unhappy here is you.No one requested you to delete it.However,if you want to delete it,it's your decision.Not mine,no one provoke you nor said it needs to be deleted.

Like I said earlier on,I'll investigate on it.No outcome has been made.And if you DID copy the screenshot guide,so what?The only thing I would do is to ask you to give the credits like what I requested fen92 to do,which he didnt.

And your temper needs to be improved.Sensitive is a normal thing,but being over sensitive and letting your anger get a hold of you isnt doing you much justice.Learn to defend yourself the right way with the right words.

[DevoX]

overall nice guide!! + rep!!

=.= my reputation is still 20.Anyway thx i love you

Like I said earlier on,I'll investigate on it.No outcome has been made.

ok sure i dont mind cuz i didnt copy it so i dont need to be scare.
Just keep investigating ^^ ty

The skill builds have similarities.Saying on how dumb people are to get flesh heap first isnt quite the right way of voicing out your thoughts.And that concept overall is also wrong,or should I say,inexperienced.

ok i edited.Im Sorry.

Getting flesh heap first isnt stupid.In fact,its smart

u cant kill too much creep at early game. At most about 6 -9 creep

I know,I have been in this forum longer than you.But I believe that in your 1st post,you could have stored in more information if I am not mistaken.

Yes the 1st post still have much spaces but i just dont want to mess the things up.

You mean this ?

Picture:
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/4...amsave31di.jpg
This is a Picture of Hooking your teammate when your teammate is being shackled CREDIT : DotA-Allstars Captain Hook

Yes i did.but i did give the credit

Or did u mean the ''Hidden Spot to TO HOOK !!''
The answer is no.All the pics is taken by me and uploaded by me also.
Why must i believe you ?
zoom in the picture and look at the username of the butcher.
Yes my username is DevoX not MuZu because the username MuZu is banned from this forum.
(I dont know why) anyway this happened long time ago.So i dont want to talk about it again.

Thank You
To Saint

[saint]

u cant kill too much creep at early game. At most about 6 -9 creep

I can basically farm minimum 3 out of 5 creeps for every wave for butcher.In 10 minutes,there is 20 waves.If you at least take the last hit of 3 creeps in 20 waves,its 60 creeps altogether.And with flesh heap,do the calculation yourself how many str have you gain.Rot isnt necessary the right skill to build up to early game.Besides,spamming rot doesnt quite favor you especially early games.Since you practice soloing,you would probably meet two heroes sometimes.And even with 1 hero,an intelligient player would know how to counter you when you use rot.

Hooking a player and then rotting while following him nearby isnt quite the idea especially during early stages of the game.With flesh heap build up early game,this enables you to spam your rot even on creeps.Unless you're planning on getting two RoH at first than a peseverence,getting rot first might not be always a good idea.

[DevoX]

I can basically farm minimum 3 out of 5 creeps for every wave for butcher.

Maybe you are a pro farmer or the enemy in your lane has no nuke hero (Lich,Zeus and ....)

[saint]

If you cant play in that lane,exchange lanes with your teammates.Afterall,teamwork is what matters.

2ndly,even though if you're against Lich or Zues,you would still be able to farm.Besides,if you have a teammate in the same lane as you,they would most probably aim him rather than you since you have loads of hit points.But with RoH,that would probably keep you alive even though if you're facing such nukers.

[DevoX]

What if my teammate is a noob ?
and he does not want to change the lane.

What if they aim me while not my teammate -.-

2ndly,even though if you're against Lich or Zues,you would still be able to farm.

lol hard u need to go back to heal alot
unless u have potions or ring of health ^^

[saint]

What if my teammate is a noob ?
and he does not want to change the lane.

What if they aim me while not my teammate -.-

You're bringing irrelevent issues into the guide.If you're going to say that "what if" your teammate is noob or doesnt want to change lane,then I am going to ask you back,

1.What if your teammate is pro?
2.What if your enemies are noob?

If that's how you want to put it,its the same for every other hero.Farming require skills and some thinking on what you should do on situation depending.I cant list out every single situation for you.But I am telling you,if you're good enough,you'll be able to farm with pudge no matter what heroes you play with.Dont give me that kind of excuse as in your teammate is noob or whatsoever.That might bring you some difficulties,I know.I have been in situations like that but in the end,I am still able to farm.

And if you're saying your teammate is noob,then how does raising Rot early game helps you kill?You're already telling me that you're losing tons of hp and you'll have to make more fountain trips.It gives you more than enough reasons to raise flesh heap if thats what you're saying.Your words contradict with your own.

lol hard u need to go back to heal alot
unless u have potions or ring of health ^^

Then what is that Ring of Health doing in your item build?

[DevoX]

okoko fine u win i lose
Okay ? k set