Post count requirement for download attachment's

[#Hacker]

The idea is quite simple, some people may release hacks, but do not want every single person that just made an account have them download there hacks/programs.
So in order to prevent this, add a post requirement in wich only people with 100 post's or higher could download the program.

this has it's benefits since then people don't just make an account, download everything, and then never get back to GzP again.

I am not sure, it might have it's downside's to
Suggest, if this is a good suggestion hehe.

#include <hacker.h>

[LobBob]

I would have to agree with you on this.

Well, to me at least, GamerzPlanet should be for those ones that are really for GzP. Many from other forums - not to name any, send members to GamerzPlanet, knowing we're one successful Gaming Site, to leech hacks, and then put it up on their own sites, claiming its theirs.

Many people however, would now say. Its unfair to only let those people with > 100 Post to download. Maybe its a little too much, but i'd say still have this idea on, just with a little amount of post, they're allowed to download - lets say > 30

Lets see what other Staff + Administration Members and Users have to say about this.


Thank You.

[r2k]

I agree with the underlying reasoning: encouraging members to be more active in the community and to earn their keep, so to speak. I'd have to disagree with the means by which to enforce this, simply because it will not work. This is not speculation on my behalf but, as the suggestion stands, it will induce more spam than the site and its team can handle.

Simply put, we've been there, done that, it didn't work the first time and there's no reason for it to be different this time around.

[deltashock]

definitely agree on you that having post requirements to download attachments, too many leechers out there doesnt even give credit to the one giving the file.

how bout a poll?

[#Hacker]

I should have refined my Idea a bit more,

When i said the attachment would gain an requirment of post's, i ment this was for the person who released the program to decide weither he puts a 500 post requirment or a 5 post requirement is for him/her to decide.

In this case, there will be random amounts of high and low post requirments.
Some will not make there post requirment to high, cause they know it's ment of all people to have and enjoy it, but some put alot of effort into there work. They do not deserve there program, to be swapped of the net, by someone who maybe didn't even play the game itself yet for 1 hour.

Since the post requirments, wouldn't always be that high, i don't think the inducement of spam will increase that much. Ofcourse there will be more spam cause this will tend people to, but this shouldn't bring up so much issues the team of GzP can't handle.

#include <hacker.h>

[r2k]

In this case, there will be random amounts of high and low post requirments.
Some will not make there post requirment to high, cause they know it's ment of all people to have and enjoy it, but some put alot of effort into there work. They do not deserve there program, to be swapped of the net, by someone who maybe didn't even play the game itself yet for 1 hour.

I do believe this is a better suggestion than the OP, but I'd still have to raise a few concerns:

• Different people will always see different things at a different value. Hypothetically, a relatively amateur programmer might release a new trainer with one or two functions, and puts a fixed post-limit on it of, say, 300 posts. On the other hand, a well-rehearsed programmer releases a new trainer with many more functions (lets assume in a completely different game to the former user) with only 50 posts. We can't really police the way by which people rank their own product, can we? That'd undermine the system.
• You're still using post count as an incentive. It's been a while since anyone explained this, so here we go again:
  Quite some time ago, we implemented a modification known as a "Credits Hack". Much like how you would now accrue points, you would previously accrue credits from posting, getting thanked, so on and so forth. These credits served as a means by which you could essentially buy attachments. Here's a more thorough example... All attachments would be at a fixed price, say, 10 credits. You would earn 2 credits for each post made. For simplicity's sake, lets just leave that as the only source of virtual income. This means for every five posts an individual makes on the board, (s)he can download an attachment. Great?! No. What happened?
  We were overwhelmed by the amount of spam. I would have to say the site was at its messiest. Ever. Spam increased exponentially. People started to post fake attachments just as a joke to make people waste credits. It was chaotic, and we withdrew the system and had to revert to, well, nothing. What we did learn was that post-count as an incentive, regardless of the actual amount of posts required, led to spam. This is what I'm trying to say, and it's easy for you to dismiss it as something that's manageable simply because you haven't seen the results.

Fix the download requirement at 30 posts, we'll have hundreds of people spamming to 30 posts, downloading, then getting banned. Not hundreds, thousands in fact. Even if 1,000 users spam their way to 30 posts... that's 30,000 additional spam posts to clean up. It's a big site. Post count just doesn't work here.

Vary the download requirement to somewhere between 10 and 100 (evidently 100 for more "private" releases) and you're going to invoke the same result, just on a different scale.

Post count just does not work as a requirement.

[bboy500]

Originally Posted by r2k

I do believe this is a better suggestion than the OP, but I'd still have to raise a few concerns:

• Different people will always see different things at a different value. Hypothetically, a relatively amateur programmer might release a new trainer with one or two functions, and puts a fixed post-limit on it of, say, 300 posts. On the other hand, a well-rehearsed programmer releases a new trainer with many more functions (lets assume in a completely different game to the former user) with only 50 posts. We can't really police the way by which people rank their own product, can we? That'd undermine the system.
• You're still using post count as an incentive. It's been a while since anyone explained this, so here we go again:
  Quite some time ago, we implemented a modification known as a "Credits Hack". Much like how you would now accrue points, you would previously accrue credits from posting, getting thanked, so on and so forth. These credits served as a means by which you could essentially buy attachments. Here's a more thorough example... All attachments would be at a fixed price, say, 10 credits. You would earn 2 credits for each post made. For simplicity's sake, lets just leave that as the only source of virtual income. This means for every five posts an individual makes on the board, (s)he can download an attachment. Great?! No. What happened?
  We were overwhelmed by the amount of spam. I would have to say the site was at its messiest. Ever. Spam increased exponentially. People started to post fake attachments just as a joke to make people waste credits. It was chaotic, and we withdrew the system and had to revert to, well, nothing. What we did learn was that post-count as an incentive, regardless of the actual amount of posts required, led to spam. This is what I'm trying to say, and it's easy for you to dismiss it as something that's manageable simply because you haven't seen the results.

Fix the download requirement at 30 posts, we'll have hundreds of people spamming to 30 posts, downloading, then getting banned. Not hundreds, thousands in fact. Even if 1,000 users spam their way to 30 posts... that's 30,000 additional spam posts to clean up. It's a big site. Post count just doesn't work here.

Vary the download requirement to somewhere between 10 and 100 (evidently 100 for more "private" releases) and you're going to invoke the same result, just on a different scale.

Post count just does not work as a requirement.

I would really love this idea. and just to say most people would not make a post requirment to download hacks at all probably. most likley people would just do it for the best hacks. but i see the negetives. lets say tho to download a file the person posting the hack had an option to let people download only if they wer thanked a certain amount of times? wudnt that still be a pretty good idea? or maybe even a certain amount of reputation doesnt have to be post count. but i and i think alot of othe rpeople would like something like this. i have some hacks that i just will not realese because i made them and i dont want leechers getting there hands on. i think adding the certain amount of thanks would be pretty good as leechers will not get thanked at all. and i doubt there will be more spam as thanks has nothing to do with post count =P. or again if not thanks reputation is also a good way. i just want something like this so i can realese my hacks to the people that actually deserve it.

[Skyline_GTR]

We will try to bring the underground section back in the next few days then you can shares those with other people who actually know what they are doing.

[bboy500]

Originally Posted by Skyline_GTR

We will try to bring the underground section back in the next few days then you can shares those with other people who actually know what they are doing.

How can i get in there tho o.O . and i really hope you do that would work great =D

[wesleyplet]

Two negatives things would happen from this both involving GzP losing traffic. If you were to start enforcing this rule "Leechers" would just go to another forum thus losing traffic, or if you were to enforce this rule people would start spamming. There are thousands of members, you can't check on all of them.

Originally Posted by bboy500

How can i get in there tho o.O . and i really hope you do that would work great =D

As from my knowledge you can't just get in, you'll need certain qualifications.